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Email from Migration Alliance to the Department of Immigration and Border Protection:
Dear Jacqui
Could you urgently please get back to me about this because quite a few of my members have come to me with this problem. I can let everyone know the answer via a news blast.
Thank you kindly.
Best regards,
Liana J Allan
Treasurer
Registered Migration Agent 0104178
http://migrationalliance.com.au/
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From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Date: Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:20 PM
Subject: Help - Incorrect EOI Points
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Dear Liana,
I am hoping you might be able to assist me with a query that the DIBP itself have not been able to (no surprises!).
I refer to the MIA Notice below dated 17 September 2013 and one of my clients has been affected by an incorrect score under the Subclass 189 visa. The difference between the MIA notice is that I had not “inadvertently” claimed more points for my client, but rather, the system had awarded the points.
The SkillSelect system gave my Client 15 points for education, when he should have received 10 points for education (based on an overseas Bachelor and Australian Masters). My client then received an invitation on 18 November 2013 with an indicative score of 65 points, when his score should only be 60. I am therefore unsure whether I should lodge his application, as the officers I spoke to at the GSM centre weren’t even aware of this issue and had the gall to accusing me of tampering with the points! I even lodged a second EOI for my client just to double check and the system awarded the same number of incorrect points.
The only way to get the correct score is to not declare my client’s Master’s qualification, which would then be seen as a failure to provide true and accurate information!
Based on the latest reports for the Round 4 November 2013 Results, the report indicates that my client’s nominated occupation of Systems Engineer (261313), which falls under the category of “2613 Software and Applications Programmers” require a score of 60 points, which is my client’s correct score:
http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/reports/report-2013-11-4/
My client has instructed me to lodge the application as soon as possible, but I would rather err on the side of caution.
Thank you for you kind attention in this matter and I would be so grateful if you could let me know your thoughts!
Kind Regards,
XXXXXXXXXXXXX - Registered Migration Agent
MARN XXXXXX
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MIA Notice: Important clarification of SkillSelect invitation point scores;
Author: Migration Institute of Australia
17 September 2013 —
Important clarification of SkillSelect invitation point scores
The MIA has raised Members’ concerns about points discrepancies between the SkillSelect invitation score and the point test assessed score upon application by a client. Following the MIA’s representations, the Department, after extensive consultation with its policy area, has issued its official position:
A criterion for the grant of a Subclass 189 visa, a Subclass 190 visa and the First Provisional Visa stream for a Skilled – Regional Sponsored (Provisional) (Class SP) visa (“a SkillSelect visa”) is that the applicant’s score, when assessed in relation to the visa under Subdivision B of Division 3 of Part 2 of the Act [the points test assessed score], is not less than the score stated in the invitation to apply for the visa [the invitation score].
The criterion acts as a disincentive to deliberate inflation of claims in the expression of interest (EOI) in order to obtain a higher ranking position in SkillSelect and ultimately an invitation to apply for a Skillselect visa.
However, the Department has become aware of cases where clients have made inadvertent errors when entering data in SkillSelect resulting in them being given a higher invitation score than they should otherwise have.
To reduce the likelihood of such errors occurring, the Department has significantly improved the information in SkillSelect. Nevertheless, some applicants may still make inadvertent errors in their EOIs.
To address this issue, consideration will be given to correcting an applicant’s invitation score where the Department identifies that an applicant has made an inadvertent error in their EOI and their corrected invitation score would have been high enough such that it would have resulted in an invitation being made in the original or subsequent SkillSelect invitation rounds.
For example, if an affected applicant’s invitation score was 75, and the lowest invitation scores for the relevant period were 75, 70 and 65 respectively, the applicant’s corrected invitation score must be no less than 65 before the Department would seek to correct the invitation score.
Departmental officers will first seek the permission of the affected applicant before correcting their invitation score.
PLEASE NOTE:
IT applicants will continue to be affected (or all of the 16 near capacity occupation) as the invite pass mark is so much higher due to the rationing.
Subclass 190 or 489 invitations under SMPs would be straightforward approvals as there is no advantage gained as the base line of 60 pt generates the invite as soon as the state approval is finalised within SkillsSelect.
Any Members with complex matters (ie Subclass 189 visas ) who would like some advice on their particular cases before they approach a case officer should email the MIA with the subject heading “GMS Points Test”.
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Response from DIBP to Migration Alliance 2:19pm on 16/12/2013:
UNCLASSIFIED
Dear Ms Allan
I refer to your enquiry regarding allocation of points for educational qualifications for independent skilled migration. I apologise for the delay in response.
To receive 15 points for a Masters degree, the person must also have a Bachelor degree completed in Australia or overseas, or the Masters degree must be considered as at least comparable to a Bachelor degree level at Australian standards. Further information on points allocated for educational qualifications is available on the Department of Immigration and Border Protection website at: http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/189.aspx
Thank you for writing on this matter.
Yours sincerely
Janette McPhee
Assistant Director
Human Capital Policy Section
Department of Immigration and Border Protection
hi Liana J Allan
My name is Nikhil Malsunda.my Mara Agent has applied for my EOI and after that he has applied for my state sponsorship 190.
i got approval for my state sponsorship 190.now when i saw my EOI, it's showing me some work experience which i never had.
My EOI points are 70.
now i need to know that if i will apply for my Visa will it be any issue ?
even if i remove all my experience from EOI i can get 60 points which is enough for subclass 190.
one more thing while applying for State sponsorship i showed only two experience.
please help me on this
Hi Cris,
I am also in the same senario mentioned above, received Invitiation from Tasmania as Enrolled Nurse. Claimed incorrectly 5 points for Australia Study requirement, making all together 70. The minimum required for 491 is 65 and Tasmania Nomination is not point ranked.
I have already lodged 491 visa and now worries as case officer has asked for document related to Australian Study (not a S57).
Since the article is old and talks about 489, will the case be same for 491 or you recommend withdrawing application and re-lodging with Tasmania again?
Will Tasmania has issue lodging another invitation after me accepting one before and now withdrawing ?
Eagerly waiting for your response
hi , i am poonam. I apply my EOI on 19 november 2013 with 60 point for 489 visa. i get invitation from Orana state nd get 10 point. so alltogether 60 point. my question is how long department will take to give invitation to apply to for 489 vis.. Is it sure. that immigration will give invitation to who have 60 point . is there any possibility to get invitation from immigration as i have just 60 point. please reply me .. will be thankfull.
Good day! my name is Krystal and I am currently working in Australia for more than 3 years now. I applied for 189 visa and when I lodged my application I claimed 60 points.. I have problem with the 5 points that I've claimed because I missed the statement that it should be more than 16 months of study to have the 5 points for Australian education. I've only studied 3 months for bridging visa and 5 months for a Specialty practice here in Australia. Is there another option to save my processing fee or to continue my application? Thank you!
Hi,
I am in a desperate need of an answer. My wife has a positive skill assessment from CPA under general accountant 221111. EOI has been submitted for 60 points but we have a doubt.
My wife has got 3 years of full time banking experience as a branch service leader back in India. Do you think it is a closely related occupation to claim another 5 points and get a better ranking in EOI.
Hope to hear from you ASAP.
Thanks heaps.
Regards,
Eshu
Hello All,
I am new here and i don't know if this is the right thread where I am asking this question or not?
i got an invite today for 189 visa ICT business analyst for 70 points, where as my correct points are 65. actually i added 2 years work experience, which was deducted by the assessing authority (ACS).
so, my question here is, shall i go ahead with the visa or shall i wait for the invite to get expire?
please help!!!!
Thanks,
Aman
amanpreet636@gmail.com
Hello Aman,
I am not an agent but was an applicant too. All I know is that when u apply for a certain points in EOI you will need to prove that you really have that points. I you don't, you might be in trouble. So, i think you ahould not apply with wrong EOI, im not sure if you can apply for another EOI with correct points before the other expires, but probably it's allowed. Check the website.
Can some one reply to this please. Am in same situation. By mistake ive added ACS deducted years , which fetched me extra 5 points and before i could realise this just within a day of EOI submission I got invite. Can i aply another EOI with corrected info before my first EOI expires
Dear Liana,
Thank you so much for assisting in this matter. My full respect and appreciation to you and Migration Alliance for taking the time and care to look into matters promptly for your members. The MIA were initially contacted on 20 November 2013 and to date, almost a month later, there has been no response from them, despite follow up emails and numerous phone calls. I did hope to get just a bit more to an authority I pay membership fees to every year. It's been very eye opening and very disappointing, to say the least.