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ACS Skills assessment update
Migration Alliance members will be interested to learn about the following ACS updates which were received today:
Dear ,
This email is a notification of up coming changes to ACS skill sassessments.
Temporary Graduate - 485
As of Oct 28, 2013, the Recent Graduate application type will change name to Temporary Graduate - 485.
The assessment criteria will remain the same –
• Bachelor degree or higher with a major in computing that is closely related to the nominated occupation.
All applications lodged on or after Oct 28, 2013, will receive a result letter stating that the result has been issued for the purpose of lodging a visa subclass 485.
Graduate Skills Assessment
As of Oct 28, 2013, the Recent Graduate wanting experience considered application type will change name to Graduate Skills Assessment.
Only applicants that hold a valid Recent Graduate or Temporary Graduate - 485 skills assessment will be eligible to apply for a Graduate Skills Assessment.
The Graduate Skills Assessment is to allow applicants that have previously applied for a Temporary Graduate - 485 to have their work experience assessed for a permanent skills assessment.
The assessment criteria will remain the same and the Skill Level Requirement Met Date will be noted as the completion date of the relevant Bachelor degree or higher on the ACS result letter.
This change will affect all applications lodged on or after Oct 28, 2013.
End of Year Closure 2013
The ACS office will close from Dec 23, 2013 and re-open on Jan 13, 2014.
Phone and email enquiries will be not be available during this time. Please refer to the skills assessment website for information.
All skills assessments not completed before Dec 20, 2013 will be finalized after Jan 13, 2013.
Due to a high number of applications at this time, we cannot guarantee any application time frames.
Kind Regards,
The Skills Assessment Team
Australian Computer Society
Web: www.acs.org.au E-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Wednesday, 23 October 2013Hi Khurram,
Contrary to the information being spread, there is no plan for an "onslaught".
When the changes, if any, are announced, you can be assured they will be compliant with the necessary regulations and well publicised.
Thanks for your comment. -
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
Hi Thomas,
The use of the word onslaught in my post and the one following is a reflection of state of mind of graduating students. It is not in any way to hurt anyone's feelings but a mere expression of how we took it.
Secondly, sir, if you are the same Thomas Shanahan as on the footer of news letter then we really appreciate you taking time reading blogs such as this one and my following post is exactly for you. We must be given some soft corner for being on the edge and I hope that while making a decision all the angles will be considered. The harsh words I am using are just an outburst of trauma we went through when we heard the news yesterday. Please have this aspect of the effect of new rules, which are yet be publicized, considered among those who are making such decisions. This will help us regaining our trust in ACS which I can assure at this point is deeply shaken.
Thanks again for you time. -
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
Hi Khurram,
Always happy to talk with people about their concerns and queries. I like reading blogs and responses as it's important to me that people get the right information. Often there is so much information out there that the facts can get lost, and so I like to be able to give people access to them.
You can get in touch with our assessment teams using the information on our website, and they will be able to provide you with up to date, factual information. As always, information about the ACS and our processes is best gathered from the ACS, rather than third party sources who may have other motives.
Again, glad to be able to help.
Kind regards -
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
Dear Mr Shanahan,
We have not seen any clarification from you or ACS regarding any of our real concerns. You keep blaming that wrong information is being spread but you know the reason is that the correct and clear information is nowhere to find. What we are talking about is a critical change in your policy that will become effective next Monday and then change all our lives, and it seems that you feel comfortable to keep the details from public until the last minute. Do you think we prefer to gather information from "third party sources who may have other motives" rather than from ACS?
Please help answer a few questions as below.
1. Why do you push the change with such short notice, especially when the details are still under review according to your response letter?
2. How do you decide the effective date? It is a rush, and you must know that it is a really bad timing for a lot of international students.
3. Do we have the right to challenge the sudden change and slow actions in releasing necessary information to the public? From whom we can seek help?
Kind regards -
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
Dear Mr. Karl Konrad,
I have looked up and found out that you enjoy a reputation of being a stand up and outspoken person who will reach out of the formal to have the RIGHT word heard where it needs to be heard.
ACS's announcement for changing the rules for assessment is an open onslaught on international IT students graduating this semester. We see it as a filthy tactic to force the professional year on students as well as wasting another year of their lives because there is no job out there for people without a shiny permanent resident sticker on their passports.
The adversely affected ones will be the students like myself who have took successful IELTS and were ready to apply for assessments from ACS and filing an EOI with DIAC as soon as they get their completion letter which is due within next month. This halts and put to drains our planing for the life which we have been doing for at least a year now. This is absurd and has to be barricaded.
What we have in our mind is formally signing a petition and reaching out to ACS to make exceptions for students graduating this year from the new assessment rules, as it is only fair. ACS must be given a clear message that you cannot simply impose something without a prior notice of at least an amount of time suitable for people change their priorities and precedences. This is not a drama, this is REAL LIFE. Having this accepted will not only relieve the graduating students but also help making future students' mind of how they should be looking at next few years of their lives and plan accordingly.
What we need is someone to guide through the process, someone who understands migration laws preferably. I hope that you will help us and this help will be life changing.
Thanks. -
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
Dear Khurram
I think your idea of a petition is a good one but I think there is a time constraint here to get organised. Best if all students get together and call the ACS and send them emails about how you feel, maybe then they may understand.
Thomas is a PR man who seems to believe even his own propaganda. He keeps insisting to circulate the lie that we didn't contact the ACS to seek clarification before we published Volume 267 of IMMIGRATION NEWS. I wonder who's reputation stands taller here, mine or his?
We feel that his personal attack is motivated because he knows that in the future we will take a close look at the value for money these PYP programs are and I can tell you from many of the horror stories I have heard from students over the years, it would seem there are many issues that need to be focused upon.
Of course it can be proven that we called the ACS to seek the clarification but he is not interested in the truth. There is no doubt the ACS is keeping the information from students until it suits themselves and unfortunately we can't do much about that for they are not a government department and accountable to only themselves.
I'm afraid that you will have to wait and see when the information comes out from the ACS but in the mean time, spread the word so at least students can voice what they feel about what the ACS is considering to do.
As you have already discovered Thomas has nothing of substance to say that is worth listening to. -
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
A note has been sent to Mr Konrad's email regarding his most recent post.
For those interested in the ACS Assessment process, please feel free to contact the ACS directly. Our contact details are readily available at www.acs.org.au
I again stress that information provided by Mr Konrad can not, at this time, be relied upon. The only way to get the right information is to come to the source.
The ACS stands ready to answer any and all of your questions as best we can, and we look forward to receiving them.
Thomas Shanahan -
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
Hi Khurram,
Again, we will be publicising changes, if any, that may take place. We have a team in place specifically to assist with skill assessments.
If you're currently part of the assessment process, you can contact us to discuss this and we'll be happy to speak with you.
Contrary to Mr Konrad's claims, he did not seek comment or clarification from us before he published his information. If he had, we'd have been happy to set him straight.
As always, we are happy to discuss the process with applicants, and you can contact us using the details on our website.· Liana - Allan likes this comment. -
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
clarify it why there is a rush? why hiding information ? we are in australia freedom
of information and freedom of expression is an Australian value and we will continue to excercise this right unless we get answers.forums like these keep public informed and are very good for us. we wont accept this new rules specofically meant to target out certain group at a certain time we are seeking clarifications and someone has to provide that.we have deakin,monash,rmit it students who are willing to sign petitions.we need a final answer on friday to see where we are going.this is in simple words australian way of life to express your view and the right to be heard. -
Thursday, 24 October 2013
Ali, please have all the students in the your circles to fill in the form.
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Thursday, 24 October 2013
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zW4fXpF9wS5hv9btby35WtBJYLBeiZQDH-p3T8Hhssc/viewform
Please use this form to sign the petition and spread the word. Do not take chances when it is your career on the line and believe me people one year DOES MATTER...
Good Luck -
Thursday, 24 October 2013
Hi,
just have quick question if anyone here can guide me.
I have completed my bachelors in computer science overseas and have experience of nearly 2 years of experience as software engineer. Right now i am doing my masters from Swinburne university majors in software engineering. do i still have to get 1 year experience for skill assessment?? -
Thursday, 24 October 2013
Yes you will have to. If the new rules come as expected then there will be a condition of 1 year of local (Australian) experience AFTER completing your degree in Asutralia.
Welcome
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zW4fXpF9wS5hv9btby35WtBJYLBeiZQDH-p3T8Hhssc/viewform -
Thursday, 24 October 2013
I spent 4 years working towards a degree, having spent 32k+ each year, only to find out that, a month before I graduate, it was all for nothing.
DEADLOCK - No job = no PR, no PR = no job.
Is it not fair to have the new rule come into effect from next year, so that students can start looking for jobs right away? Why throw this at us, after all the troubles we took? Don't we deserve a fair chance?
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Thursday, 24 October 2013
Hi JS,
I'd suggest contacting DIBP regarding your options. Temporary assessments from the ACS are suitable only for temporary applications, this is in line with the requirements of DIBP.
DIBP are best placed to advise you on what your path to PR could be. -
Thursday, 24 October 2013
Just spoke to the lady at ACS's skill assessment team and this is what I got in reply.
--- She explicitly said that the change in the assessment is being forced by DIAC not by ACS. ACS is just following the guidelines laid out by DIAC. ---
This was astonishing for me as DIAC as I know changes rules in July. This is a whole new dimension of how we are going to take the things.
Mr. Karl, Thanks for seconding the idea of petition. It turns out that Mr. Thomas either did not know about these changes being force by DIAC or was hiding this piece of information deliberately. Or another thing could be the lady I just spoke to at ACS gave me wrong information due the the same reasons.
Now DIAC is a government organization. If ACS aren't answerable to anyone but themselves we could leave them alone. But DIAC MUST BE answerable to somebody for enforcing the whole thing on us ruining our plannings. The petition is getting huge volume of responses, that has to count as well.
We are not letting this go without a fight. -
Thursday, 24 October 2013
Hi Khurram,
I think this might have been a mis-statement.
The change to the letter issued for a temporary assessment is a requirement from DIBP. There have been instances where applicants and agents were using temporary assessments to apply for permanent visas.
We are ensuring the integrity of the system is upheld by making it clear on a temporary assessment that it is only suitable for a temporary visa.
Hope this helps clear it up. -
Thursday, 24 October 2013
in 2010 diac gave students transtional arrangement, we will press for same.not easy job but possible. we just need to be united.
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Thursday, 24 October 2013
wait till friday first lets see the final rule.
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Thanks for sharing this Thomas. I read this yesterday but it doesn't, in anyway change ACS's plans of onslaught. What we need as affected ICT students is to have this transition either put on a hold or at least, as hash suggested, a cooling period.