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CPA skills assessment certificates held back by IELTS validity dates
Richard Coates has sent through another curly one. I think migration agents might want to know about this:
Hi Liana, you may want to make agents aware of this situation accountants are being subjected to by the assessing body, I have written this to the 'This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. '
My client has achieved recognition as an accountant by the assessing body regarding his certificates and experience but CPA cannot issue him with a successful outcome letter as his IELTS test exceeds 2 years as per your Policy but is within 3 years currently .
Since July 2012 all IELTS test results are Valid for 3 years my client has supplied an IELTS test within this period
Please can you look at the latest legislative changes to IELTS regulation under law, all assessing bodies are aware of this and have made the appropriate updates to their assessing systems to keep in line with DIBP changes , as you can see from the attachment IELTS test all valid for 3 years as and from the 1st of July 2012.
My client is working as an accountant and is in Australia originally from New Zealand an English speaking country and has achieved the required IELTS level ( academic ) and the department of immigration will accept his IELTS test but your organisation wont due to CPA present stand on 2 year policy and he has also an Australian qualification in accountancy from a university here in Australia .
This will affect thousands of accountants applications in the future . I can see no reason why CPA should subject applicants to this 2 year policy it’s not as if a person’s English language ability once achieved is going to depreciate once they have reach the required level,
I need a logical reason to explain to my client why CPA treat accountants different to a legal direction by the department of immigration. One cannot have clients being assessed at a lower archive regulated level they would regard as unfair and unjust when the government makes a change and an assessing body does not update its policy to match the new requirements .
This has a serious effect on the timescale my client is locked in with to achieve their skilled migration visa goals, We are talking about people lives here. IELTS test offices are backlogged and expensive and CPA are subjecting this client to sit another IELTS test at an academic level which he has already achieved and valid under present regulated law. The only people who benefit from another IELTS financially is the IELTS test people Have we not taken enough from this client already do we have to bleed more funds from him . CPA have entered into an incongruous situation which requires an immediate change to address my clients plight relating the CPA policy before his present IELTS test he holds expires you hold currently.
I await your response,
Regards
Richard E Coates
Migration Agent
Marn #0746134
Celtic Migration Services pty ltd
Ph.: 08 83966814 Mob: 0417839502 Email : This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Monday, 10 March 2014DIBP has not make a blanket statement that IELTS is valid for 3 years. For example for Functional english it's still valid for 1 year. The 3 year validity for the main applicant for skilled migration is also measured to time of 'application', whereas the comments above expect a validity measured to time of 'skill assessment'.
It is presumptuous (in my opinion) to expect that skill assessing authorities should have the same requirements as DIBP - that's part of the purpose of having a skill assessing authority, to have a separate assessment outside of DIBP.
Wihle on this topic it should also be noted that th EOI system measures expects IELTS to be within 3 years, but under legislation it's 3 years to date of visa 'application' (EOI is not a visa application as pointed out by DIBP). It's therefore possible to have a valid IELTS for EOI selection, but it to expire before the visa application is made a short while later. Be careful with this. -
Wednesday, 12 March 2014
Not all assessing bodies require IELTS test result such as vet asses they don't require any for professional assessment but only advise to adhere for visa purposes for DIBP requirements. This is what you are told when you call up Vetassess office. In my opinion Skills assessing bodies should all be unilateral across the board and accept up 3 years validity. There is no logical reasoning to reduce IELTS results by one year accept in a financial interest for IELTS bodies and delaying confusing the applicants process.
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Monday, 10 March 2014
This is a ongoing major issue. The inconsistency of assessment requirements needs government review. It not just IELTS but also includes work experience points assessment, who can and who can not certify documents. It would be great if someone was able to produce a table showing each Skills Assessment requirements./inconsistency
Other examples of inconsistencies
ACS: They have added the requirement of two years work experience. That ok. in terms of skill assessment But when they calculate work experience points they deduct the two years. This is in mot opinion contrary to the guidelines and certainly contrary to what other Skill assessment agencies apply. Under ACS assessment you would need 7 years work experience to claim 5 yeas on points. I have written to MA who have not yet reported on this issue.
IELTS: If a applicant has an IELTS score of say 8, 7.5, 7, 6.5 with an overall score of 7.5 they should be able to claim 5 points but receive 0. Likewise if they score an overall score of 8 but fall below on one component they should get a point score of 15. We all kn0w how inconsistent IELTS assessments are and more often then not an applicant falls below their target score by just 0.5 and can have a score variation from test to test within a month by as much as 1.0 to 1.5. (This highlights the inconsistency of the test) Any appeal is held internally and behind closed doors with no details or reporting as to where the test failed)
Certification; DIBP (DIAC) allows registered Migration Agents to certify copies of documents yet each Assessing authority has a different standard and list.
The Minster should set standards in the administrative processes which each assessment authority MUST apply -
Tuesday, 11 March 2014
The same applies for Vetassess skills assessment for work experience requirements. NSW does not have a work experience requirement for the SC90 visa but Vetassess requires 1 year of experience to assess the skills. So the applicant can qualify for NSW state sponsorship but not for the skills assessment in Vetassess occupations.
IELTS has so many inconsistencies as stated above and I have had a test reviewed with a score of 6 for writing reassessed to 7.5. This is a clearly a result in error in the first place by the assessor because the difference between 6 and 7.5 is significant and not just a small adjustment. The assessor in question in the Philippines has clearly stated he does not give higher than a 7 for any writing test so has an extreme bias that should not be tolerated by IELTS or the Government.
IELTS needs to be held accountable for this. They charge high fees for the reassessment when they are clearly in error in the first place. -
Wednesday, 12 March 2014
I have had this argument with several assessing bodies about acceptance of IELTS test 3 years validity and some after lengthy persistence accepted the 3 years validity, this problem with assessing bodies setting ridiculous acceptance levels in the IELTS Test just because they can discriminates and cost extra expenses to clients ,
regulation 1.15C Competent English
(1) A person has competent English if: (a) the person undertook a language test, specified by the
Minister in an instrument in writing for this paragraph;
and
(b) the test was conducted in the 3 years immediately before
the day on which the application was made; and
(c) the person achieved a score specified in the instrument.
(2) A person has competent English if the person holds a passport
of a type specified by the Minister in an instrument in writing
for this subregulation.
this regulation should be imposed on assessing bodies Its an unfair on clients and is not unilateral , and is one sided , they are instruments of government and should adjust as do we all accordingly with government changes. the clients ability to speak English when he enters Australia can only get better and not decrease it make common sense. -
Saturday, 24 May 2014
I wonder did the other two professional accounting bodies (ICAA, IPA) in Australia have prolonged their valid date acceptance for ielts test, from 2 years to 3 years?
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Saturday, 13 June 2015
Did the other two professional accounting bodies (ICAA, IPA) in Australia have prolonged their valid date acceptance for ielts test, from 2 years to 3 years?
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Sunday, 28 June 2015
HI,
so what is the conclusion of all above discussion Mr richard
i have attempt my ielts in May 2013 can i use that for my post graduate visa in coming feb 2016 or not?
thanks -
Monday, 31 July 2017
Hi
My query is that I completed Bm my cima exams in 2012 but became a member in 2017. Now CPA is not considering my work experience from 2012-till now as it is prior to becoming a member.
Please tell me whether I should go ahead with filing an eoi
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Are there any skills assessing authorities who have relaxed their IELTS requirements to align to DIBP? I still advise clients that the DIBP accepts IELTS results as valid up to 3 years from date of test for the application but assessing authorities have their own policies.