“There is no rhyme nor reason for why particular occupations are on the list, and many, such as nurses, teachers, engineers and a number of trades occupations, should be removed,” she said.
MACSM advises the government on visa and policy settings to optimise the contribution of skilled migration to Australia’s productivity and economy. In effect, it determines the occupations on the skills list by advising the government which to add and which to remove.
Opposing Ms Kearney’s view was Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry director Jenny Lambert, who said the CSOL list should not be shortened as it allowed for business and regional differences.
“The list needs to be responsive,” she said.
Ms Lambert said the CSOL review needed to take an evidence-based approach that examined the locations and professions with high uptakes of 457s.
“Just changing the list doesn’t do anything,” she said.
“It’s critically important that MACSM doesn’t look to make CSOL some sort of shortages list.”
Ms Lambert said the mobility of the Australian workforce was definitely an issue that contributed to the need for 457 visas.
Strong ties to family and friends, and the size of Australia, made mobility a “formidable” problem, she said.
“One of the most significant myths is that skilled trades are at risk,” she said.
Ms Lambert said that most of the people granted a 457 visa were professionals.
She said rather than migrants taking jobs from Australians, a well-balanced migration program generated jobs.
“If you start fiddling with the occupations of the CSOL, you will lose … responsiveness to individual businesses and regions.”
The MACSM panel had a major overhaul recently with three union leaders dumped from the panel leaving only the ACTU head to lead the union charge.
The Australian Industry Group chief executive Innes Willox is the panel’s chair. He warned that past discussions on 457 workers were destructive and there is a need to move on:
"We need to shift the debate," he said. "We had a rabid debate through 2012-13 on the whole issue of skilled migration and we need to shift the agenda a bit to have a holistic view around skilled migration's role in the overall skills mix, how it fits in with the training agenda and what the needs of business are, both in the short and long term," he said.
I agree with brucek. I add that the purpose of the CSOL has never been clearly stated. Employers should be forced to meet all the employer obligations under the relevant fair work laws. Other than that, it is the employers who know whether or not they need people with any particular knowledge. If there is no fair work oversight of the employers, then the migration authorities need to step in. But we have a fairly heavy workers' rights oversight. Why invent a list of "maybe" occupations that are not changed by the markets but by academics and professional rule makers using poorly collected and outdated statistics--which they often reject anyway.
The CSOL list provides education providers opportunity to market certain courses. It gives DIBP income from applicants. If we are provided with actual data on application approval and refusals, we will be able to see how much money the government actually makes from immigration. Once person's concern is not going to affect the governments prerogative to increase cash flow for the government departments. If immigration ever becomes privatised, I will put my hand up to buy over department. Where do you get a business that makes moeny whether they grant or refuse a visa.
Why on earth does the union target nurses to be removed from any list! healthcare is one of the few growing areas across the globe.
With the global growth of the baby boomer generation, every country in the world is fighting for nurses and health care professionals. Why on earth, doesn't the union think about that...other than for the purpose of keeping their job alive.
It's a fairly simplistic observation but it would seem the parties (employers and workers) need to agree first on the purpose of the CSOL - a challenge at the best of times, and it should not be a case of whether one party out-numbers the other. Where is the consensus? Where is the leadership?